Meat Ice creams

[donnad.livejournal.com]

There has been a lot of discussion going on over at this post. I was going to respond over there but figured it would just get lost in the shuffle.

I would like to try to clarify what I believe is Anns's complaint about meat ice creams. Ann correct me if I am wrong here.

Disclaimer: I am an omnivore, I eat meat. I do not like chicken liver at all therefore the thought of a chicken liver ice cream is a major squick for me. I have allergies to many other foods, many of them were made into ice creams this year, I actually had a run-in (so to speak) with one of those foods this year(mango if anyone is curious.)
I do not keep kosher.

So here is my take on this.

Say you have a table with several buckets of ice cream and one scoop and a bucket of rinse water.
First person, takes a scoop of the chicken liver ice cream, puts the scoop in the water, the water is now contaminated with chicken liver ice cream melt. Next person takes the scoop and scoops into the mango ice cream and puts the scoop back in the water. Mango ice cream is now contaminated with chicken liver water. Water is now contaminated with chicken liver and mango. Next one comes along, scoops into the chocolate ice cream, scoop goes back in the water, chocolate ice cream is now contaminated with the chicken liver and the mango. Water is now contaminated with chicken liver, mango and chocolate.

I come along, and I want vanilla. I take the scoop and proceed to contaminate the vanilla with chicken liver, mango and chocolate. Well, I am personally allergic to mango. I actually can't have the vanilla I want without having to deal with the contamination from the water of chicken liver, chocolate and mango melt. Thus I can't even have vanilla unless I use my own personal scoop, which BTW would be contaminated by anything else I may have dipped into prior to coming to the vanilla, thus contaminating the vaniila for someone else.

I think this is the issue at hand. How do we deal with stopping the cross contamination of dairy to non-dairy and meat to dairy/non-dairy?

Personally I think the meat ice creams are an interesting experiment and I don't want to discourage experimentation but... The situation could be easily remedied by a separation of them to a small table by themselves with their own scoops.

I think a separation of flavors based on type is a really a good idea for future Baitcons. The sorbets get a table, non-dairy/soy or coconut based on one table, the *hot* ice creams (like habanero) on another, the regular ice creams on one, and the meat on yet another. It would help to avoid cross contamination of dairy into meat, dairy into soy and other non-dairy flavors.



Now as for the other issue she raised. I too think that the person walking around with the torn t-shirt barely covering his privates was out of place, especially with so many young kids around. Call me a prude, but IMO, in the house area one should be a bit more modest. If it had been a speedo swim suit, it would have been fine. Or down at the stream, I wouldn't have blinked twice. But in the main common areas, where anyone could have driven in off the street he should have had a bit more modesty. I can only imagine what the owners of the property would have said/done had they decided to visit our little gathering and seen him.

Comments

[larksdream]

How did this crowd get so prudish lately?

IMVHO,

1. I don't think the crowd in general did / is.

2. My personal belief is that what is and is not acceptable is totally up to concom. They should pick a guideline and announce it loudly. Then people who had, uh, feedback, could approach a concom member about it at the time it was happening and let someone speaking ex cathedra handle it from there.

[dragonsea]

" Then people who had, uh, feedback, could approach a concom member about it at the time it was happening and let someone speaking ex cathedra handle it from there. "

Can I get an AMEN!?

Having a problem, doing nothing, and then bitchin' about it afterwards does not solve the problem. The fact that none of the people who are now complaining did anything at the time bugs me more than the outfit involved.

[vvalkyri.livejournal.com]

Hm. My assumption was that the thought process was "It bothers me, but not enough to make a todo over it, but there should be more clarity next year."

And you can tell by how much I've been participating in these threads that I've not been so good at getting useful stuff done at work today -- one wonders how much more I'd be posting if I actually really cared :)

[vvalkyri.livejournal.com]

more to the point, this comment (http://www.livejournal.com/community/baitcon/16365.html?thread=89069#t89069)

[dragonsea]

Maybe he wasn't aware that it wasn't doing its job? If no one told him it was a problem, how was he to know? My point remains that all these people are complaining too late (and to the wrong people) for anything to have been done at the time.

[vvalkyri.livejournal.com]

That's true. "hey, dude, that shirt's no longer covering your bits" might have been a good thing.

I seem to be in a minority that I'll tell people their fly is open. It's all very odd.

[larksdream]

That's a minority?? Um... I'd MUCH rather hear something like that privately and subtly from a friend than find out upon finally going to the bathroom (or seeing a mirror) that my witty and charming conversation has for hours been accompanied by a gaping fly or a 4" stalk of broccoli in my teeth or a leech dangling off my nose and swaying gently in the breeze, or something... ;)

[vvalkyri.livejournal.com]

:laugh: Hell, I'll tell strangers in shopping malls.

[perspicuity.livejournal.com]

"flag's at half mast dude"

"hey, cthuthlu, mirror check"

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[larksdream]

"hey, cthuthlu, mirror check"

*SNERK* :D

[underwatercolor.livejournal.com]

Well said. :)